: and this movie is based on real life events, which means what specifically for this film? >> well, actually, "l.a. times" picked up on the story. there was a small box, a dybbuk box, which is basically a box that dybbuk is the dislocated spirit and it was sold at a yard sale. everyone who had it or owned it, terrible things started happening in their family. people got killed or horrible freak accidents, and it went from person to person and it actually created havoc in whoever had the box. tavis: so you said you wanted to do a horror movie because you'd never done one before. >> right. tavis: i assume, then, that now that you're past "the closer," there is -- my word and not yours a level of freedom that you now have to explore stuff that you haven't done? >> for sure. i mean, i did shoot this before i finished "the closer." but absolutely, i loved "the closer." it was an amazing experience on every level really, personally, professionally, but also it was so fulfilling creatively. it was one of the most creative experiences, fulfilling experiences, i've ever had. so i left because, a, i want